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Subject: A SOLUTION?
From: Harveynestor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:31:52 EST
Bram:

      You said in your 11/26/2003 reply to Warren, "I do think that a 
waterline measurement on station 10 (the widest one) would help the builders 
feel 
more secure.  I'll post that measurement after this rules vote is over."

       Why not post all the measurements at all of the measurement points? 

       Is the real issue a money issue for you?  

       You said in your attached 11/24/2003 e-mail to me, "I have spent more 
than $100,000 related to design, research, and development of the Swift Solo.  
I have nearly four years of my life tied up in the boat as well. ... In 
short, I would hope that the dumbest among us could come up with a better money 
making scheme."

       Problem:  If you, Bram, were to release all measurements for all 
measurement points, your templates would not be necessary to build Swift Solos; 
and 
you would lose money.  

       Solution:  

       1.  Define license fee.

       2.  Increase the license fee to $500.00.
       3.  Release plans and measurements to those who have paid for them.
             In your 11/24/2003 e-mail  you acknowledge that you have sold 
plans; "If you buy a set of plans and templates"

       4.  You are then guaranteed to earn $500.00 on every Swift Solo sailor 
who wants a measurement certificate for their boat regardless of whether that 
boat measures in.

       5.  You can then fulfill your sales contract and deliver plans and 
measurements to those who have purchased them.

       Result:  We can all move forward in building a great new fleet of 
Swift Solos.

I trust that I will hear from you shortly.

Eldon

P.S.  Following is a copy of your e-mail I have quoted.  Underlining has been 
added for ease in finding the quoted statements.

Subj:   Re: CLASS RULES 
Date:   11/24/2003 5:04:54 PM Central Standard Time 
From:    BDally6107@xxxxxxx
To:    Harveynestor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, swiftsolo@xxxxxxxxxxxx
    
    


Eldon,
 
Just a note of clarification:
 
I have no recollection of any discussion of additional fees ($200?).  If you 
buy a set of plans and templates you can allow others to use your "jig" to 
build subsequent boats for $300 each.  They need to pay that fee prior to 
bonding 
the hull and deck.  Failure to do so will simply mean that those boats will 
never be awarded a measurement certificate or allowed to race in class 
sanctioned races.  Certainly we do not want to be in the business of dealing 
with 
"bootlegged boats" (boats that are built without paying the $300 license fee).  
 
 Apparently you have missed the emails that I've sent on the list server 
regarding the rules.  They have indeed taken longer than expected and without 
much 
good input from our members, they would likely be deficient and have taken 
longer yet.  As stated in earlier emails to the class, if you use reasonable 
care to follow the manual and do not attempt to redesign the station templates 
you will have a very liberal margin for error.  If, on the other hand, the 
measurer detects that any builder has made a deliberate attempt to modify the 
design, that boat will not measure.  Typically, The Measurer will be looking 
for 
boats that have been pinched in to the edge of the rules in the bow area 
especially or built to the minimums all over.  In order for that to be a 
legitimate 
mistake a builder would have to miscut every template on the small side by a 
1/4" all over--not likely an accident.  It should be noted that the standards 
for the swing test will not be established until we have "swung" a significant 
number of boats.   
 
As for your concern about the fee--you raise a good question.  Email, rules, 
a new rigging manual and construction issues are taking at least 8 hours a day 
and have been since early this summer.  I have spent more than $100,000 
related to design, research and development on the Swift Solo.  I have nearly 
four 
years of my life tied up in the boat as well.  The class now owns mandrels for 
both the mast and the boom.  In short, I would hope that the dumbest among us 
could come up with a better money making scheme than this one.
 
I can say with reasonable certainty that I've never implied to anyone that 
subsequent boats built on the same jigs were not going to have to pay the $300 
license fee.  
 
Some of the items that your fees pay for are class advertising and promotion 
(look for ads in Wooden Boat and elsewhere over the next several months) 
research and development (right now for carbon reinforced mast parts that can 
be 
built by class members instead of having to purchase them at 5 0r 6 times the 
cost and 4 times the weight).  In addition, I have begun traveling to help 
certify builders, printing 24X36 posters.  Future costs will include more 
hanging 
scales, measurement templates, and swing test equipment for measurers and 
measurement.  We will be putting on our first regatta next summer at Higgins 
Lake 
in Michigan along with a prior training session.  The entry fees will not come 
close to covering the costs of that event (we expect about 15 boats).  Soon, I 
expect to travel to Europe to certify builders and to help ensure that the 
class takes off everywhere.  The list of expenses is long.
 
On the other side of the ledger, I'm having the time of my life.  I've 
retried with a respectable income from the building industry and am following 
my 
passion--building the Swift Solo Class.  I'm meeting the nicest bunch of people 
imaginable.  I just returned from Michigan yesterday.  I spent several days 
with an incredible operation that will be our first listed certified builder 
(I'll be posting more as soon as this bug leaves my system).  In addition, I 
spent 
nearly a full day with Meade 
Gougeon and Bill Bertleson from WEST System epoxies and got an education that 
will serve both me and the class well in the future.  I also met with three 
DN ice sailors (two of whom bought plans and paid license fees).  These are 
truly great guys (adrenaline junkies) who have made it clear to me that the 
crossover to the Swift Solo (and the other way) is a natural.  We have much in 
common.
 
In closing, let me repeat.  You will have no trouble with your boat (hull and 
deck) measuring if you follow the manual and do not alter the templates.  If, 
on the other hand, builders begin altering the hull and deck design to gain 
an advantage--it is my intent (and I hope the other class members) to make 
their attempt fail.  Running rigging, centerboards, and to some degree sails 
and 
spars are generally less restrictive and the place where we expect great 
innovation.
 
I hope this clears this matter up.
 
Bram


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