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Re: Finally begining to get caught up

To: Steve Nichols <aussieswift@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Finally begining to get caught up
From: Christian Rasmussen <Christian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:44:09 -0500
Cc: BDally6107@xxxxxxx, swiftsolo@xxxxxxxxxxxx, al.pritchard@xxxxxxxxxx
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The bulkheads I did were vacum bagged with the material wrapped around the edges. I think most of the
compression load is being spread by the fact that they are still taped in once you flip it over.


Christian


Steve Nichols wrote:


Hi Bram,
I appreciate your comments about the cradle. I would never use a dolley with simple webbing to support the hull. I had a bad experience with one of these in my previous sailing life.
You were right - constructing the cradle when you just want to get the hull flipped and glassed is a time for patience!! - not always one of my strong points. I am taking care to ensure the hull gets good support at station 10 & 6 to make sure it retains shape after it comes off the assembly. As I am now making the full cradle I am thinking about some mini wheels at the front of it so that even when mounted on a dolley I can drag the whole boat instead of lifting - important at the end of the day when you are knackered. Another thing I will do is put a couple of loops of spectra through the hull (may need a bit of cedar blocking at this point prior to bonding) at station 10 when you get back to shore you simply secure the boat to the dolley with some hooks on trapeze cleats that are attached to the dolley. Voila your boat is now much more stable on the dolley (You are basically increasing to beam of your boat to the full width of the dolley) plus it is secured ready for trailering The bit about Christians idea that appealed was that I wouldn't need to do the support for station 6 plus the hull in station 6-8 area retains its shape absolutely as it should. The point you make about no hybrid under these bulkheads would be a concern to me as the compression loads at this point of the boat are going to be very large.
I am really starting to look forward to meeting everyone at DeSoto and learning more about the Swift Solo. The stuff about Geogeon Bros and hull stiffness sounds especially interesting. Cheers,
Steve


*/BDally6107@xxxxxxx/* wrote:

Steve,
A couple of things to consider regarding the cradle.
First, you need a trailer cradle, launching dolly / storage cradle
anyway. I use mine for dock storage/launching, for launching off
the beach, and for storage and transport inside my van trailer. If I had an open road trailer, I would use it on that as well. The strap system that comes with the Seitech dolly is marginal and
not too good for storage when the wind is up--even when the boat
is tied down. The extra weight can be mitigated with "beach
tires" which have about twice the contact area of regular tires. Always best to store a boat on something that is molded to the
hull shape or to susp end it by the gunwales. It is important
that the carpet be something that is very open and dries-even with
the boat on it. Also, you'll see that the one I built doesn't
require having an independent dolly.
Construction methods:
I don't really see much of a problem with running the strips
straight other than appearance (they don't show on the bottom of
the boat anyway). I would want for Christian to get some time on
his boat before trying his bulkhead method. I'm not entirely
certain how Christian dealt with tying the hybrid together under
the bulkheads (Christian)? We will be giving a talk a Fort DeSoto about the finding of the
testing we've done with Gougeon. We believe we've isolated the
majority of the problem of hull stiffness degradation to bulkhead,
mast step, and chain plate compression where these items load the
deck and hull (tee into the deck and hull). The integrity of the
hybrid or cloth spanning these loaded areas may be crucial but
probably less on a wood cored skiff than on a foam or Nomex core.
Best regards,
Bram



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