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Fwd: letter from Forte on spars

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Subject: Fwd: letter from Forte on spars
From: BDally6107@xxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:13:25 EDT
The following is an email from Forte (Tony) regarding spar issues.   Let's 
talk about this together before sending any direct responses to  Forte.
 
Bram 
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To: BDally6107@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Barbecue bill
From: Mtdilemma@xxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 08:27:59 EDT
Full-name: Mtdilemma
Bram:
How much?
Glad everyone had a good time at the BBQ.

Just to answer your questions on spar management here it is.
First issue:
Some of the earley spars had there tracks attached with 3M 5200 this was 
standard protocall here for our first 9 mon in business, and if was in fact the 
SS 
class that helped us make the switch to Plexus MA 425 (remember Forte as a 
spar building company has been developing in parallell with the SS class).  
Those tracks did not hold on the we (Forte) procured 2 plexus kits for the SS 
class.  I know its a hassle to repair the track and we will do it for zip if 
the 
spar finds its way back here.  On the other hand it is the class itself that 
should be administerig the shipment of the kit around to the various members 
that have decide to attach there own track (each user gets to pay shipping 
once). 
 Which leads us the the next issue.

UV exposure: All SS masts are build using a Ciba/Vantico/Huntsman Aryldite 
6010 epoxy resin modified with 2 surfacte tension modifiers and 2 UV 
inhibitors. 
 This whole shebang is cured with Methyltetrahydrothalic ahydride catalized 
with a proprietary catalyst.  This formula does not cure at room temp ever, if 
it did we would be shut down.  The resin back bone is still an aromatic 
repeating structure and even though we add UV stabelizers this will not allow 
for 
long term direct exposure.  All spars expected to live out side on a foat 
should 
have an additional coat of a good UV filtering clear applied.  The measures 
we take here will only hold on if a spar is exposed while sailing and during 
rigatta weekends.  
    Here is what we recommend for a forever finish: If you know your spar is 
to live outside the spar should be taken from us with no track installed, 
sanded so the outside is flatted out and given 2-3 coats of Interlux Perfection 
Clear (we buy the stuff from jamestown dist INTYVA853KITQ).  The track area 
should be taped off witha stripe of 3/4" blue tape so when the tape is pulled 
the 
sanded surface is available for the Plexus/track treatment.  If you already 
own a spar and it is chalking after longterm direct exposure than all it needs 
is a scotch-brighting, tape off the track and 3 coats of Perfection.  
    You may be thinking geez for $750 smackers why doesnt this include the 
paint job? If we could we would. Our painter expected to spend 6 hours from 
start to finish, if we had to add this on this would represent another $390.  
Judging from the amount of clear being aplied to the boat it self I would first 
recommned a DIY.
    Smell: As all SS builders know boat construction with epoxy is not a 
stinky event and the use of a 2K brushable finish is stinky.  Not dangerous 
(but 
dont smoke while applying) as the urethane is not atomized (as when spraying) 
but he solvent smell is not something you want in you house.  A good day bright 
and not too windy can result in a realy fine job.
    Bram has some additional experience with the West 207 he will share with 
the class.  One may consider actually building a composite spar with 207 but 
unfortunately the TG is so low the spar would fall down on a sunny day and it 
would plug up our resin recirculation system which remains resin/hardener 
charged 24-7.  If any class members have any questions please do not hesitate 
to 
call of E-mail me.
Thanks Tony Delima
Forte RTS       

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