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re: boom

To: swiftsolo@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: re: boom
From: rowr@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 21:31:53 -0800
Mark, for what it's worth, I made a filler and fiber mix which I dammed up 
inside my boom. I then just drilled into the epoxy and used that for my 
gooseneck to go into. It has lasted a year and a half without any side effects.

As far as the RF2331 goes, I would prefer to find a better solution, as you 
have to cut a section of this component off (it is meant to be a shroud 
calibrator) Every one of these Ronstan parts that I have cut off, starts 
rusting in sea water!

Greg, the R2350 (RWO) part looks better, but there is one concern there. How 
high are the holes off the boom when installed. The outhaul on our sails is 
set fairly high in the sail and you are normally doing a serious balancing act 
when you are putting the pin through the sails. The rack needs to be tall 
enough so that it is easy to get the sail in the rack and the pin through. The 
beast is powered up at that stage and you are gripping the pin between your 
teeth, while holding the bow into the wind with one foot, keeping yourself on 
the beach with your other foot, holding the boom up with your other foot, 
keeping the boat upright with your other foot, stopping your boards from 
floating away with your other foot and doing last minute adjustments to your 
harness with your other foot!!!!  It is such a fun exercise, that one day I 
sailed off the beach at Jericho and I had forgotten to put the pin in the 
outhaul. As I sheeted in, I looked back to see Mike J rolling around on the 
beach laughing. There is so much power on the battens that the thing will even 
sail without being connected to the boom!

Roger


Mark, I imbeded mine in filler and epoxy to the inside top of the boom. It  
has held together even under a load that tore the gooseneck off the mast.

On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 15:40:18 -0700, Mark White  
<Mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> then what's the RF 2331 for, it is flat on what could be used as the  
> bottom, but you would have to drill mounting holes?
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Greg Ryan
>   To: Mark White ; Robert Harper
>   Cc: swiftsolo@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 3:01 PM
>   Subject: Re: boom
>
>
>
>   Outhaul in stock Available to ship  
> http://www.apsltd.com/Tree/d6000/e5538.asp
>   this was chosen because the bottom surface is flat.
>
>   The gooseneck receiver does indeed go inside the upper surface of the  
> boom look at the plans for the details they are well spelled out. The  
> part is instock and ready to ship from Annapolis performance sail. See  
> below  http://www.apsltd.com/Tree/d3000/e808.asp
>
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Mark White
>     To: Greg Ryan ; Robert Harper
>     Cc: swiftsolo@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>     Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 4:25 PM
>     Subject: Re: boom
>
>
>     Greg,
>
>     the part # for the goose neck receiver is RON 2528, and is out of  
> stock, not only that but the picture of the part looks like it should be  
> mounted under the boom not inside, looks like it has a base on it.  All  
> I need is basically a tube to insert the goose neck into, bonded in the  
> boom.  As far as the out haul is concerned there is a part in the  
> package RON 2331(fine tune stay adjuster), is that to be used as the  
> outhaul, don't know where else it would go, might make a fine hood  
> ornament for my truck though.
>
>     Mark
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Greg Ryan
>       To: Mark White ; Robert Harper
>       Cc: swiftsolo@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>       Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 2:14 PM
>       Subject: Re: boom
>
>
>       I believe the  Spars parts kit comes with the boom gooseneck  
> receiver. If not, or you don't have, it get the Ronstan part from APS or  
> Fisheries.
>
>       The outhaul has gone through a series of iterations.  We started  
> with a stainless fitting (which is in your spars parts kit) Quite a  
> while ago Bram and I were discussing (read BS'ing) about a system used  
> on model boats to automatically ease and tighten the outhaul. After this  
> he tried a very expensive outhaul micro track and car system but has  
> recently made a carbon version of the old stainless fitting and ripped  
> the track and car off his boom.  In practical terms, as the Swift is an  
> apparent wind trap boat,  there is neither the time nor the urgency to  
> get in to the boom to adjust that setting while racing. Bram's last  
> comments to me about it was, "stick either with the simple carbon or  
> simple stainless versions of the quickpin outhaul rack". There you have  
> it from the oracle.
>       My 2c is, use what's in the kit.
>       Greg
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         From: Mark White
>         To: Robert Harper
>         Cc: swiftsolo@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>         Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 3:36 PM
>         Subject: Re: boom
>
>
>         Hi Robert,
>
>         well the stainless tube is out...didn't have the right size, so  
> I think I'll make a tube out of carbon strands...the goose neck is made  
> of some kind of plastic, so no worry with electrolysis.  Will you be in  
> FL in April?
>
>         Mark
>           ----- Original Message -----
>           From: Robert Harper
>           To: 'Mark White'
>           Cc: swiftsolo@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>           Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 12:33 PM
>           Subject: RE: boom
>
>
>           Originally Bram was using a shroud spacer. 'U' shaped with  
> holes for pins. I noticed that on "A Series of Unfortunate Events" he  
> had a small block with on a track so he could adjust it while on the  
> water.
>
>
>           The tube would probably work but my concern, though slight,  
> would be that it would not bond well to the glue and twist out at some  
> later date. Things that are very smooth and uniform in shape don't tend  
> to like to stay where you put them. It would also be a good idea to use  
> the same metal as the pin on the gooseneck. This would reduce the  
> electrolysis.
>
>
>           Robert S. Harper
>
>           Information Access Technology, Inc.
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>           From: Mark White [mailto:Mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>           Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 12:22 PM
>           To: swiftsolo@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>           Subject: boom
>
>
>           What are we using for the outhaul rack on the boom, didn't see  
> it on the list for fisheries?  Can I use a stainless tube for the goose  
> neck receiver bonded in the boom?
>
>
>           Sincerely,
>
>
>           Mark



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Live large, love life, and sail fast.
Robert Harper USA 050 "Fugu"


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