Another thing about the outhaul rack, you will need to drill holes in
whichever one you get, to connect it to the boom, because you use the same
holes for mounting the rack and for the pivoting block which hangs down from
the boom.
Drilling holes in stainless can be a real challenge. A few things to remember
about it, use a really sharp drill and use cutting fluid to keep it cool. As
soon as stainless gets hot it work hardens and then it is really tough to
drill through.
Roger
Quoting rowr@xxxxxxxxx:
> Mark, for what it's worth, I made a filler and fiber mix which I dammed up
> inside my boom. I then just drilled into the epoxy and used that for my
> gooseneck to go into. It has lasted a year and a half without any side
> effects.
>
> As far as the RF2331 goes, I would prefer to find a better solution, as you
> have to cut a section of this component off (it is meant to be a shroud
> calibrator) Every one of these Ronstan parts that I have cut off, starts
> rusting in sea water!
>
> Greg, the R2350 (RWO) part looks better, but there is one concern there. How
>
> high are the holes off the boom when installed. The outhaul on our sails is
> set fairly high in the sail and you are normally doing a serious balancing
> act
> when you are putting the pin through the sails. The rack needs to be tall
> enough so that it is easy to get the sail in the rack and the pin through.
> The
> beast is powered up at that stage and you are gripping the pin between your
> teeth, while holding the bow into the wind with one foot, keeping yourself on
>
> the beach with your other foot, holding the boom up with your other foot,
> keeping the boat upright with your other foot, stopping your boards from
> floating away with your other foot and doing last minute adjustments to your
>
> harness with your other foot!!!! It is such a fun exercise, that one day I
> sailed off the beach at Jericho and I had forgotten to put the pin in the
> outhaul. As I sheeted in, I looked back to see Mike J rolling around on the
> beach laughing. There is so much power on the battens that the thing will
> even
> sail without being connected to the boom!
>
> Roger
>
>
> Mark, I imbeded mine in filler and epoxy to the inside top of the boom. It
> has held together even under a load that tore the gooseneck off the mast.
>
> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 15:40:18 -0700, Mark White
> <Mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > then what's the RF 2331 for, it is flat on what could be used as the
> > bottom, but you would have to drill mounting holes?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Greg Ryan
> > To: Mark White ; Robert Harper
> > Cc: swiftsolo@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 3:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: boom
> >
> >
> >
> > Outhaul in stock Available to ship
> > http://www.apsltd.com/Tree/d6000/e5538.asp
> > this was chosen because the bottom surface is flat.
> >
> > The gooseneck receiver does indeed go inside the upper surface of the
> > boom look at the plans for the details they are well spelled out. The
> > part is instock and ready to ship from Annapolis performance sail. See
> > below http://www.apsltd.com/Tree/d3000/e808.asp
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mark White
> > To: Greg Ryan ; Robert Harper
> > Cc: swiftsolo@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 4:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: boom
> >
> >
> > Greg,
> >
> > the part # for the goose neck receiver is RON 2528, and is out of
> > stock, not only that but the picture of the part looks like it should be
> > mounted under the boom not inside, looks like it has a base on it. All
> > I need is basically a tube to insert the goose neck into, bonded in the
> > boom. As far as the out haul is concerned there is a part in the
> > package RON 2331(fine tune stay adjuster), is that to be used as the
> > outhaul, don't know where else it would go, might make a fine hood
> > ornament for my truck though.
> >
> > Mark
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Greg Ryan
> > To: Mark White ; Robert Harper
> > Cc: swiftsolo@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 2:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: boom
> >
> >
> > I believe the Spars parts kit comes with the boom gooseneck
> > receiver. If not, or you don't have, it get the Ronstan part from APS or
> > Fisheries.
> >
> > The outhaul has gone through a series of iterations. We started
> > with a stainless fitting (which is in your spars parts kit) Quite a
> > while ago Bram and I were discussing (read BS'ing) about a system used
> > on model boats to automatically ease and tighten the outhaul. After this
> > he tried a very expensive outhaul micro track and car system but has
> > recently made a carbon version of the old stainless fitting and ripped
> > the track and car off his boom. In practical terms, as the Swift is an
> > apparent wind trap boat, there is neither the time nor the urgency to
> > get in to the boom to adjust that setting while racing. Bram's last
> > comments to me about it was, "stick either with the simple carbon or
> > simple stainless versions of the quickpin outhaul rack". There you have
> > it from the oracle.
> > My 2c is, use what's in the kit.
> > Greg
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mark White
> > To: Robert Harper
> > Cc: swiftsolo@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 3:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: boom
> >
> >
> > Hi Robert,
> >
> > well the stainless tube is out...didn't have the right size, so
> > I think I'll make a tube out of carbon strands...the goose neck is made
> > of some kind of plastic, so no worry with electrolysis. Will you be in
> > FL in April?
> >
> > Mark
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Robert Harper
> > To: 'Mark White'
> > Cc: swiftsolo@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 12:33 PM
> > Subject: RE: boom
> >
> >
> > Originally Bram was using a shroud spacer. 'U' shaped with
> > holes for pins. I noticed that on "A Series of Unfortunate Events" he
> > had a small block with on a track so he could adjust it while on the
> > water.
> >
> >
> > The tube would probably work but my concern, though slight,
> > would be that it would not bond well to the glue and twist out at some
> > later date. Things that are very smooth and uniform in shape don't tend
> > to like to stay where you put them. It would also be a good idea to use
> > the same metal as the pin on the gooseneck. This would reduce the
> > electrolysis.
> >
> >
> > Robert S. Harper
> >
> > Information Access Technology, Inc.
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > From: Mark White [mailto:Mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 12:22 PM
> > To: swiftsolo@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: boom
> >
> >
> > What are we using for the outhaul rack on the boom, didn't see
> > it on the list for fisheries? Can I use a stainless tube for the goose
> > neck receiver bonded in the boom?
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> >
> > Mark
>
>
>
> --
>
> Don't be good. Have LOTS of fun.
> Live large, love life, and sail fast.
> Robert Harper USA 050 "Fugu"
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