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Materials


posted 2003 Aug 15

Up on the Swift Solo site, there is a list of materials (here is a link to the raw data). The West System has their product guide online, as well as their price list. A couple places online have prices better that MSRP; John R. Sweet, for instance, as well as pyacht.com. Even then, just for the West System products, buying from John R. saves you $100 over buying from from pyacht, the next most expensive supplier.

Here is my materials list thus far. John R. Sweet has a bunch of materials at excellent prices, and their explinations of what different weaves are is excellent. From what I can tell, their prices for carbon fiber/fiberglass/kevlar are excellent too.

QtyDescriptionURLInfoPriceTotalComments
 360 / 16 foot ¼” by ¾” bead and cove Western Red cedar strips. You can get by with a mix of 14’s and 16’s or you can make the handful of 16’s needed with scarf joints.      
 Any white cedar or mahogany accent strips desired     
 1 gallon Elmers carpenters glue     
 3 boxes 9/16” staples     
 10 hot glue sticks     
 200 #5 x ¾” pan head sheet metal screws (to use where staples won’t hold) These are very small diameter     
 2 lbs 1 ½” drywall screws for strongbacks and spacers     
 100 ¾” fender washers to use with small screws (#5 x ¾”) on cedar strips     
 4 / 4x8 foot sheets ½” particle board     
 1 / 4x8 foot sheet 5/8” ACX plywood for strongbacks     
 1 can 3M Supper 77 spray adhesive     
110 plastic squeegeesgo 8.00 6” wide, one dozen
 200 16 oz plastic drinking cups     
22 - 4.35 gallon containers West System epoxy (4.35 gal = 16.47L)go105-C228.00456.00Also check here ($228) and here ($253) and here ($238) and here (9 x $59.95)
22 cans - 205-B hardener (27 oz = 0.86 qt = 0.80L)go205-B24.0048.00Also check here ($24.95)
22 cans - 206-B hardener (27 oz = 0.86 qt = 0.80L)go206-B24.0048.00Also check here ($24.95)
11 can - 207-SB hardener (42 oz = 1.32 qt = 1.24L)go207-SB46.0046.00Also check here ($46.95)
1dispensing pumps for epoxy and hardenergo3009.009.00Also check here ($9.95)
11 large container (6.0 oz) WEST 406 colidial silicago 8.008.00Also check here ($14.95)
11 large container (12 oz) WEST 407 fillergo 10.0010.00Also check here ($24.95)
11 large container (20 oz) WEST 403 microfibers go 15.0015.00Also check here ($15.95)
 2 dozen 2” disposable paint brushes     
 2 dozen 1” disposable paint brushes     
 1 high quality 3” varnish brush     
 10 4” rollers/roller frame and disposable roller pans     
1100 mixing sticksgo 1.001.00 
 2 / 12’ 5/4 x 8” cedar for cradle / bow piece (depends on the design needed to fit your trailer) should be reasonably clear of knots.     
2020 yards 50” wide 9oz. S-glass 8 harness satin weavegoweave 65808.50170.00 
2424 yards 50” wide 5.5 oz. carbon/Kevlar hybrid twillgoweave 9490521.00504.00 
22 / 50 yard rolls 2” e-glass tapego 15.0030.00 
22 / 50 yard rolls 1” e-glass tapego 9.0018.00 
11 / 50 yard roll 2” uni-directional carbon tape (for hull, deck and rudder stock)go 132.50132.50 
1010 yards 10 oz e-glass for cradlegoweave 18005.0050.00 
22 quarts Epifanes high gloss clear varnishgo 31.5063.00 
 assorted sandpaper and steel wool      
 fairing boards     
 100 10 x 32 tee nuts (for backing for fittings)     

Other materials I'll need
5Tyvek suitsgo 5.00  
1Blue nitrile gloves: M, L, XL, box of 100go 11.00  
1MSA Ultra-Twin full-face respirator go 75.00  
1#9451, 8” bent shear, smaller version of #9441go 11.00  
1Grooved aluminum roller, 1” x 3” length, straight cylinder”go 8.00  
14” plastic spreader (dozen)go 4.00  



I always forget: s-glass is stronger than e-glass.

Here is the list of Ronstan parts required for rigging. There's also the original xls file. [Update 2004 Apr 08: There is also the updated Ronstan list, Bram changed a few pieces and posted a new edition.]

I haven't spent any time looking through this list, I just know it's up on the site. Bram lists the prices as: Basic parts package $1540.44; Deluxe parts package $1900.84. These prices are wholesale, and you have to buy the whole thing through Bram. The yellow items are only in the "deluxe" parts kit.

PNP964inspection ports, 100mm opening 
RF2941drainpluglink pic
PNP1902briddle anchorslink
RF871deadeye (pole launcher)link pic
RF7113quicklink (vang, cunningham)link pic
RF6164narrow shacklelink pic
RF3250-044microloc threaded fork (for caps and primary shroud sealocs)link
RF1574-04044sealoc callibrated turnbuckles (caps and primaries)link pic
RF3484mast tangslink pic
RF11892single tangslink pic
RF3144rudder gudgeons (2 are for chain plates)link pic
RF3161pintlelink pic
RF31222tiller extensionslink (pdf)
RF51212trapeze cleatslink pic
RF172trapeze ringslink pic
RF1315R2tie balls large (trap under tennis balls)link pic
RF1318R2tie balls smalllink pic
RF671swiveling deadeye (vang)link pic
RF50102cam cleats (mainsheet)link pic
RF385 (49er jib track)1  
RF3341jib car and blocklink pic
RF301741pivoting lead block (mainsheet end boom)link pic
RF201741pivoting lead block (jib sheet boom)link pic
RF307111exit block (mainsheet front of boom)link pic
RF301412spinnaker halyardlink pic
RF30100A1slotted post head single block (spinnaker halyard mast top)link pic
RF301011single block (spin halyard slack retrieval)link pic
RF202811in line double block (pole launcher)link pic
RF301511cheek block (pole launcher)link pic
 
  RF201514cheek block (trapeze shockcord)link pic
  RF201512cheek block (jibsheet launcher throat) 
  RF201511cheek block (jibsheet mast base) 
  RF201511cheek block (jibsheet inside boom) 
  RF201514cheek block (vang and relativity control) 
  RF201513cheek block (mast misc) 
 
  RF201012single block (jib sheet)link pic
  RF201012single block (lowers) 
  RF201011single block (vang) 
 
  RF201111single with becket (vang)link pic
  RF201111single with becket (jibsheet) 
 
RF201002single swivel (jib halyard, lower)link pic
RF203021tripple (lowers)link pic
RF203121tripple with becket (lowers)link pic
RF6621double block (cunningham)link pic
 
Frederiksen fdrllr601low profile ratchet (mainsheet) 
Fredriksen 60mm ratchets2(spinnaker sheet ratchets), aka RF62100link (pdf) pic
spinlock auto cleat 98586 ???1(spinaker halhard cleat)link pic
aluminum clam cleats cl211 mk16(control lines)link pic
dead eye straps8  
RWO shroud levers RWO#R45504(shroud levers)link
snap hook1  
Ronstan tiller extensions2  
shackle 763747(jib and main halyard and misc) 
lightning rope 1/8” blue (1 roll)1  
samson tech 12 5/16” red16(mainsheet) 
ultra lite yacht braid 5/16” yellow40(spinnaker sheet) 
XLS yacht braid 3/16” green 20  
XLS yacht braid 3/16” red 20  
XLS yacht braid 1/4” blue20  
XLS yacht braid 1/4” black 20  

I've also created a page with pictures of many of these parts. Many of the images are from Binks Yachts Online, an Australian vendor that's done a great job of putting pictures up (thank heavens!)

[Update 2006 Nov 9: I ran out of hybrid cloth after coating the hull and deck, and I needed some more to build the centerboard and rudder. There is a global shortage of carbon, and getting hybrid is even harder. While looking over a few different options, I realized that the hybrid Sweet sells isn't the stuff specified in the builder's manual. As I wrote to the list:

In my quest to find sources for hybrid cloth, I came across a couple differences in hybrid I thought everyone should be aware of.

I bought all my supplies from Sweet — Bram put together a package which I picked up. The Sweet package includes hybrid style 94905 — http://www.sweetcomposites.com/Kevlar.html. This stuff is 13 x 13, 5.6 oz twill weave hybrid, 3K graphite and 1420 denier Kevlar *alternating in both warp & fill* — which means that the graphite and kevlar run along both the length and the width.

There are a couple references in the building manual about ensuring the correct alignment of the hybrid (it runs crosswise on the hull, lengthwise on the deck), which I followed, but in the back of my mind knew that it didn't matter since the hybrid I had alternated in both warp & fill.

In researching hybrid for my centerboard, I came across this stuff — http://www.uscomposites.com/hybrids.html — which does not alternate. This is twill weave, but the carbon runs along the warp and the hybrid along the fill. Notice that the pictures for these two fabrics look very similar, but they aren't.

Needless to say, it's too late for me, but if you haven't glassed the inside of your hull, you may want to take a close look at your hybrid.

Thanks
Warren

Man, when I figured this out I almost had a heart attack.]

[Update 2007 Jan 4: Turns out this had already come up on the list. Greg wrote a long post discussing the properties of the different styles of hybrid. Long story short: not as bad as I thought. Extra: worth positioning the hybrid cloth on the hull & deck on a 45° angle, as I mentioned before. This causes the bulkheads (in particular) to disperse their load along two strands of kevlar rather than one.

Here is some useful data on the strength of these materials:

FiberDensity
(g/cm^3)
Tensile Modulus
(GPa)
Tensile Strength
(GPa)
Kevlar291.4460 – 833.6
Kevlar491.44131 3.6 – 4.1
S Glass 2.5480 2.0 – 2.5
E Glass 2.6022.0 3.4
Carbon 1.75230.0 3.5
Steel 7.87210.0 1.3
]

Safety


posted 2003 Aug 12

I've read a bunch of articles on epoxy safety recently. In an order from Newfound Woodworks, there was a flyer on MAS epoxy which talked about safety. There was also a discussion on the woodworker's forum about dust collectors.

Wood dust is a known carcinogen. It also causes substantial respiratory problems. Here is a study by the National Institute of Health on wood dust. You can also read a lot of good information on sensitisation and the problems of wood dust on the Cyclone & Dust Collection Research site. Read at least the Introduction and Doc's Orders pages.

Once you've managed to fair your hull and are ready to glass it, things are no better. Epoxy causes allergic reactions after repeated exposure, and exposing it to your skin will sensitise you. Epoxy dust is toxic. The West System safety page discusses the health effects at length, and also provides the MSDS for their resins and hardeners.

Also on the West System site, you can find the manual for West System epoxy, as well as articles on physical properties of their epoxy and a problem solving guide.

I have the matierals safety data sheet pdf's of West System products here:

I've also got the product description and instructions for the respirator mask John R. Sweet sells (the MSA Ultra-Twin).

Visit the 505 site


posted 2003 Aug 8

If you haven't visited the 505 website, that's worth a visit. The quotes page has some great quotes: "Overbearing in victory, surly in defeat." Or "I heard a hissing sound, and when I looked up, you guys looked like the four horsemen of the apocalypse blowing by."

Sounds like fun. ;-)

Setting up the mailing list


posted 2003 Aug 6

I have set up the mailing list for discussion of the Swift Solo - that's been interesting. I choose MHonArc for the archiving; it's used by such luminaries as all the GNU mailing lists, a number of Perl lists, etc. To create a page which has an index of monthly discussions, you need mharc, and mharc expects Namazu to be installed.

Installing MHonArc was pretty easy - it's just Perl, and they are friendly enough to expect you to want to not install it system-wide and just in a private account (I wish all Perl packages were like this). It doctors up all the lib paths to point to your local directory.

The tricky part came in getting the mailing list messages to it. The way to do this is to have the archive email account's .qmail command be a pipe directly to MHonArc, rather than putting it through procmail.

Next was the search engine, Namazu. Again, Namazu is pretty good about expecting to be installed in a private account. The tricky part here was figuring out how to link to the shared library, or to build so that the library wasn't necessary. A quick search turned up that one; run configure with --disable-shared. It was surprisingly easy to get the whole thing working once this kink was worked out.

I wrote a detailed install log, if you want to follow along.

EpoxyWorks articles


posted 2003 Aug 5

EpoxyWorks has a bunch of interesting articles on boatbuilding, large and small.

Generally the direct link has pictures and the pdf's don't, but the pdfs are local (just in case).
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