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RE: non skid pattern

To: "Mark White" <Mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,<BDally6107@xxxxxxx>,<swiftsolo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: non skid pattern
From: "Andy Howlett" <Andy.Howlett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:48:25 -0000
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Thread-topic: non skid pattern
I think you guys are using what us "pommies" ;o) refer to as pro-grip for your 
non slip. If so, then it certainly is available in large sheets, at least, it 
is here in the UK.  
 
It isn't especially cheap at about £30 sterling for 900x1300mm but it is great 
stuff - I use a LOT of it on my contender which is cold molded wood. It is a 
shame to cover up all that lovely wood but on the occasions that it helps to 
get you to the windward mark in first place it is well worth the aesthetic 
compromise.

Available from www.ldcracingsailboats.co.uk who I happen to know are happy to 
ship to North America.
 
I personally got my last sheet from Wavelength designs as Graham Scott there 
does a lot to support the Contender class here in the UK and he is a couple of 
quid cheaper - I think he ships overseas too. www.wavelengthdesigns.co.uk
 
Hope that is of some use to someone!
 
Cheers,
Andy Howlett,
Contender GBR 412
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From: Mark White [mailto:Mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: 24 November 2005 20:59
To: BDally6107@xxxxxxx; bill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; swiftsolo@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: non skid pattern


Frankly I wouldn't care if the whole area were covered with non skid material, 
does it come in large sheets?   While being able to see the deck would be nice, 
because I think it just might entice some to build one.  What the deck looks 
like is second to keeping your feet under you, or on the other hand, at least 
while laying in the mainsheet, enjoying the water, as everyone steers around 
you, would have something nice to look at...Mark

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: BDally6107@xxxxxxx 
        To: bill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; swiftsolo@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 1:21 PM
        Subject: Re: non skid pattern

        
        I should probably have written a bit more about this in my original 
post.  Let me back up.  
         
        I know that all new builders will, at first, not want to put non skid 
on their new boat.  Eventually, when they see a Swift without it they will view 
it as a skiff that has not been completed.  Skiffs have non skid.  Coffee 
tables do not.
         
        I have one Swift with an alternative non skid that is clear.  It does 
not work (still too slippery) and it does not allow the non skid to bond to it 
as well.  Plus, the non clear non skid makes the finish of the boat between the 
non skid strips look poor / milky.
         
        Second,  Last year we had a new Swift with no non skid at Fort Desoto.  
I tried to sail the boat and wanted out of it after 30 seconds.  It simply was 
not usable.
         
        Third,  we had a famous green 49er in Seattle that Bates McKee used Sex 
Wax on.  It looked like a pig sty because dirt stuck to the stuff and you could 
not remove either the dirt or the Sex Wax with anything but really harsh 
chemicals.  For several years, he sailed this really ugly / dirty green 49er.
         
        My fear is that one of our new builders will show up with their new 
boat again this year and not be able to sail it because they underestimated the 
importance of this issue.  LISTEN TO ROBERT.  You guys are giving me 
indigestion (couldn't be the third piece of pumpkin pie)
         
        By the way, has anybody tried bubble gum or contact cement?
         
        Best regards,
         
        Bram


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